On 3 June 2017, less than two weeks after the horrific terror attack in Manchester, another savage attack took place in the Southwark district of London when a van mounted the pavement of London Bridge and was driven into pedestrians. The three occupants ran to the nearby Borough Market area where they stabbed people. Tragically, eight people were killed (a Spaniard, a Briton, two Australians, a Canadian and three French citizens.) and forty-eight injured including four unarmed police officers who attempted to stop the assailants. It marked the third terror attack in Britain in just over two months.
Kate met with CEO Nick Moberly.
Speaking about the visit a royal aide told The Telegraph "Although the story has moved on publicly this is a chance to thank the staff and reassure those still in hospital, many of whom have families with them, that people very much care."
More from the article:
'The Duchess arrived at the south east London hospital at 1.50pm, for a visit that was not publicised in advance to enable staff to continue to treat those affected without disruption.
In total 14 victims were taken to King’s, one of whom was ‘walking wounded’ and able to leave quickly after being seen by emergency staff. The remaining 13 required treatment for stab wounds of varying severity. Seven were in a critical condition and are still receiving round-the-clock treatment. She asked about the roles of staff and praised their efforts, saying: "Well done."
Kate met the incredible doctors, nurses and support staff who described their experiences.
Dr Kate McLeod, the hospital's major trauma consultant on the night recalled how events unfolded in the hospital "When we realised that this was going to be a much wider incident we called in a lot of colleagues. We got some messages out through WhatsApp. When news of the incident began breaking on television I went down to rescuss and the first patients were just being brought in. That’s how quickly everything happened. We were treating patients arriving with the police van before we had even been alerted by the London Ambulance Service. After that they came really quickly. ‘I am so proud of my team, they were excellent. We ran multiple trauma teams because so many people came in to help. We had patients who went to theatre that night and lots of patents admitted to the trauma ward."
Mail Online royal correspondent Rebecca English posted a video of Kate talking to staff, she asked them if they receive emotional support.
Video: The Duchess of Cambridge talks to medical staff who worked on the night of the #LondonBridgeAttack at King's Hospital pic.twitter.com/CUDEL9Ea1s— Rebecca English (@RE_DailyMail) June 12, 2017
Kate asked staff how they coped with the incident. More from the Mail Online "Speaking about the night, head of nursing Lynne Watkins-Hulme told her: 'What was really noticeable on Saturday night was the amount of female patients that were involved. That was quite traumatic for the staff. We are not used to so many females being injured. She added: 'We are used to seeing people who are stabbed. But to have six women who were stabbed, multiple times - it was just the amount of people - that was upsetting."
A key component of today's visit was an emphasis on mental health and emotional support.
Kate talked with Dr Tunnicliff and other experts who explained how important the psychological support offered to staff & patients is.
Rebecca English reports:
'Before she left the Duchess chatted with clinicians about the psychological support which has been made available to staff and patients following the attacks. The issue of mental health is an important part of William, Kate and Harry’s public work. ‘Can and should you talk to patients who have gone through something like this?’ she asked. ‘There they are in hospital one day and then find themselves back at home. Is it best to guide them?
The Duchess also asked whether PTSD is common among patients who have gone through such a traumatic experience. She was told that everyone was offered help and support both while in hospital and in the weeks and months ahead. ‘It’s hard to know who will get PTSD and who won’t,’ one staff member said. ‘The important thing is to help themselves and their families recognise the signs and know where to get help.'
Dr Tunnicliff told the Duchess: ‘We are incredibly proud of what everyone achieved in such a short space of time. Staff are very resilient. Kate replied: ‘Yes, I know this is only a small representation of everyone involved.' He added "I think the Duchess was really affected by the dedication of the staff and how resilient they are. They are very proud to work for King's and the NHS."
Kate spent time at the bedsides of those still receiving treatment. That portion of the visit remained private out of respect to the survivors.
Kensington Palace posted this departure video with the caption "The Duchess says goodbye to the fantastic team at King's College NHS and thanks them for all their care & support for victims of the attack."
The Duchess says goodbye to the fantastic team @KingsCollegeNHS and thanks them for all their care & support for victims of the attack. pic.twitter.com/hH9qKum1p9— Kensington Palace (@KensingtonRoyal) June 12, 2017
A wave to the crowd as she leaves.
The Mail posted this graphic with photos and names of the eight people who lost their lives. It's utterly devastating to see such a senseless loss of life. Whilst the attack took place in London, the pain is certainly not limited to Britain with seven of the eight victims from other countries. Below, Xavier, Sebastian, Ignacio, Sara, Christine, James, Alexandre and Kirsty. I found looking at each photo quite emotional - each representing a life stolen and unimaginable heartbreak for their loves ones. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with those affected in all the terror attacks.
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Despite the sorrow and uncertainty, London Bridge is not falling down. Britain is standing tall. Throughout this difficult time enormous courage, strength and unity has been shown. From the bravery of first responders and unarmed police to Ariana Grande's uplifting concert in Manchester, it has been so heartening to see the level of togetherness and kindness displayed. I feel it is incumbent upon the royal family to show as much support as they can. Reading quotes from William's visit to Manchester showed just how much it meant to those he met. One British Transport Police Officer said "It shows that people do care. We have had members of the public showing us that, but for it to go all the way to royalty is appreciated.". Kate's visit today was also greatly appreciated, Malcolm Tunnicliff, clinical director of the emergency department, said: "It's really nice when someone like the Duchess of Cambridge comes in and sees what we do first hand and says thanks. It gives the patients a lift, it gives the staff a lift that they are being recognised. All staff in the NHS want these days is to be recognised. They get knocked for so much and actually for someone like that to come and recognise what they do is a massive lift." I think the quotes perfectly sum up the importance and significance of a visible royal family following such a trying time.
Appropriately, Kate chose her blue sparkle tweed Rebecca Taylor suit for the day - a look she has worn on numerous occasions - ensuring her sartorial choices were not a focus of attention.
The suit is from the designers Pre Fall 2012/2013 Collection and has become a staple for everything from royal tours to video messages. Both pieces are crafted in heavily textured melange weft. The jacket features frayed trim and sequin floral embellishment at the neck.
Kate wore her Manolo Blahnik Calogera court shoes (with thanks to Kate Middleton Style).
Kate debuted the pair at Heathrow on the way to Canada in July 2011 for her first royal tour, they haven't been publicly worn since.
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Kate wearing the pair in 2011.
Kate accessorised with her sapphire and diamond earrings.
You can view a video from the visit on YouTube.
We'll see Kate on Friday for an engagement with the 1851 Trust.
We'll see Kate on Friday for an engagement with the 1851 Trust.
Finally! This could have be planned awhile ago but I like to think her PR team saw the comments and online and finally got Kate to go visit victims
ReplyDeleteI don't like tweed suits but I am just happy she finally came to her senses and is visiting victims
And I like to think this was planned a while ago. Different strokes...
DeleteI agree, Melanie...members of her team might read here but I doubt that in this case it influenced her schedule. Surely this was already planned.
DeleteI suspect the visit was planned a while ago and had little to do with on line criticism. Everything is orchestrated.
DeleteI was kidding guys lol
DeleteUhm... not a very funny joke. Especially since some people argue that point in all seriousness.
DeleteDifferent strokes for different people, Rebecca!
DeleteI agree, Rebecca.
DeleteFrankly, nobody here knows if this visit had been planned a while ago or was more spontaneous in nature. Regardless, I'm happy to see her. Also very happy to see the MBs again:)
DeleteI agree Rebecca - Sweden. With all the tragedy-bullying etc. in the world you would think at some point people would realize that their words should be more thoughtful.
DeleteAbsolutley Anett. Funny or not, it was nothing in the initial comment giving a clue to it being a joke. And since the written word is lacking in that we cannot see facial tics and other body language, people of course expect a comment here to be a genuine feeling and comment.
DeleteThe BBC news website reported ages ago that she would be doing this, but did not say when. We don't have a television, so I don't know if those who rely on the visual media will have known about it, though.
DeleteJesus everybody calm down. I didn't think anyone would take my comment seriously. It was just in the timing that after all of us saying she should be visiting people and she suddenly goes and visits a few days later
DeleteActually, hours after the last complaints, not days. "I'm just happy she finally came to her senses"...is that part of the joke, too? I doubt her mental state or personal preference in timing had much to do with it.
DeleteThe order of visits followed the order of precedence: Queen, Charles, William...then others. The Queen seems fond of emphacising her succession. Trooping-balcony; formal portraits-the historic Diplomatic Reception photo; royal processions-weddings, Abbey events.....Abagail
Sometimes a little dark humour can be misunderstood....I completely get what you were saying Sarah :-) and i agree!
DeleteVery nice to see Kate visit the survivors and staff! I am sure it brightened their day immensly! And I must say, a visit like this, quite a few days later, might actually be preferable. The media flurry and general chaos around the event has died down a little bit, people have started to be able to land and start handling the (physical and mental) trauma etc. A quick reaction from the royal family is what looks best to the outside, but I think a visit like this is probably more uplifting and helpful to the victims and staff than one right after. I actually think there usually is a "void" after events like these where after a huge wave of well wishes and media attention, the world moves on to "the next big news event" where the people affected might feel a bit "forgotten". So having the royals visit in a time like that might be a great "pick me up" and boozt in a time when the circus around it is disappearing but the everyday struggle of getting back to some kind of normal has begun. (This is not to say that quick visits of the royals is not appriciated! Ofc they are, especially from the Queen!)
ReplyDeleteSeems like they have put different royals on these visits. If I remember correctly, first was Charles visiting victims and William ambulance personel. Second was Queen visiting victims and William ambulance, police, locals and victims and this time Charles and Camilla visiting victims and same with Kate. So the top 3 "tiers" of royals being very present in this. (I seem to have a memory of Sophie visiting something connected to Manchester as well?) I might be wrong with these recallings.
And I'll repeat my comment after Williams visit: "...while pictures of him meeting the families is good PR for the royals I am impressed that they didn't bring the cameras in to the meetings. There is enough media intrusion for victims as it is! Of course there are still alot of social media pictures from the visit, which makes sense. But that is a totally different thing since it's the patients/families choice."
Good choice to wear a repeat. Not about fashion! (Although, on a shallow note, it's fun to see these shoes out again!)
Hope everyone had a great weekend and I look forward to seeing the Cambridges this week (and must say that William looked VERY dashing on his white horse recently!)
Rebecca, I totally agree. I think it is better that she has visited now, after all the chaos has settled a bit. It will definitely be a boost to both the victims & staff that she has paid a visit. It's nice to see the royals have been spread around to different areas (HM/William/Sophie(?) - Manchester, C&C/Kate -London), to show their support & gratitude. I wish all the survivors well in their recovery.
DeleteNo hospital would appreciate a royal visit immediately after a major incident: they are far too busy and the injured far too ill. I know this from experience.
DeleteRebecca, I am so thankful for you! The comment section has been bringing me down lately. I don't like a lot of assumptions about what goes on behind the scenes and the motivations involved as those assumptions usually are negative lately. Making guesses about things we will probably never know the truth about is fine and normal conversation but when the guesses and assumptions are mainly negative I just don't understand that. I appreciate your choosing common sense and a more balanced approach. This time, you saved me from vowing to take a break from the blog. :) Not every comment has to be positive for sure, this has always been a place to voice our feelings even if we disagree but when the opinion is usually always negative and the assumptions and arguments backing up the opinion become borderline silly to me, it gets old fast. I prefer a balanced approach when opining on circumstances we know zero about and you, and thankfully the majority of the usual commenters, take that approach and I need to focus on that more I suppose. :)
DeleteAnyway, The Queen, Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate have now visited victims, families and rescuers of these terrible attacks and I'm sure the visits have lifted their spirits tremendously. ❤
@Rebecca: I always enjoy & appreciate your well thought out comments & I agree wholeheartedly.
Delete@Jean from Lancs: Precisely! I could only shake my head when some people were in an uproar that Kate didn't visit right away.
Prince Charles and Camilla visited a few days after and nobody seemed to have a problem with it
DeleteI too agree that a later visit is important. First for the reasons that Jean from Lancs states, hospitals are very busy tending to the needs of the patients immediately after an incident. Second, and perhaps more importantly, when the initial attention subsides, the interest somewhat wanes. As Rebecca points out, I think I would very much like to have a surprise visit later to know that I wasn't forgotten and perhaps to boost my moral as I start the path to recovery and healing. There are many phases to a trauma/tragedy like this as there are many phases to the healing process. I think that Kate's appearance at this time is important and a very good tie in to the issues surrounding the provision of support to help ensure mental well being. I too wish all the survivors and their families the best in their recovery as well as the families of the victims. cc
DeleteRebecca, Kiwi Gal, Jean from Lancs, (yours are the comments I can see right now) I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said.
DeleteAs I said Sarah, nothing wrong with their visit early. That visit is good for the countrys general morale and shows the country that the royals care. But the later visits are the ones I think are more helpful to the staff and patients. But both are good and needed.
DeleteWell Lord I suppose I'm in some people's negative column, BUT let's remember the tremendous morale booster a royal visit is in these times.
DeleteThe Queen visited the children in Manchester 3 days after the attack and it made such an impact on the victims, their families and the staff. That the Queen herself would come to their bedsides and see them was enormous and it gave everyone a much needed boost. Not one staff person complained about it, the benefits of seeing Her Majesty outweighed any possible interruptions. And the opportunity to convey to someone as important as the Queen what you've been through, the challenges the staff is dealing with, that's very hard to quantify.
Go look for the comments the hospital directors, drs and nurses made after that visit, it's heartwarming. I believe I quoted one in a previous post as well actually.
No-one is saying it doesn't, Claudia. And most people will appriciate such a visit. But the risk of disturbance and extra trauma from media etc IS valid thoughts that have to be taken into consideration.
DeleteThe people after these events get alot of love and outpouring of feelings that are positive after events like these. But they also get the papers calling and pretending to be family to get a scoop. Photographers parked outside their families house etc. It is a well documented thing that after events like these people have gotten extra traumatized by attention around them at an already disturbing time. No, the royals do not bring such bad attention. But they do bring media at times which might hinder.
And ofc no-one is saying anything bad about the visits, even if someone would think it!
And I am NOT saying it was bad at all. But people seem to miss, Charles and Camilla did that early visit! It was covered!
Rebeca - Sweden, I must admit i had the same thought about the shoes!! i didnt remember them from before, which i was surprised at as i love shoes! and i am also glad she wore a repeat and one of my favorites at that.
Delete"... both are good and needed.", said Rebecca "spot on" - Sweden. :)
DeleteI agree, it would be too stressful for victims to see the royals so soon after. Give them a chance to rest.
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DeletePlease check out the articles and photos of the Queen's visit in Manchester. No stress there.
And she's wearing her manolo blahnik heels she wore when she left Heathrow for the Canada tour in 2011
ReplyDeleteShe's wearing her Manilo Blahnik heels she wore when she left Heathrow for the Canada tour in 2011
ReplyDeleteI think it was an added bonus that she looked so pretty today. I personally think that also helps cheer people up. I like this suit. It has flowers on it. Perfect for bedside visits. I really like the shoes and earrings with the suit.
DeleteSG, can you point out the flowers? i am not seeing the flowers on her suit, maybe my eyes are not as god as they used to be??
DeleteI think i get it now SG! i finally saw a shot in which all her hair was blown back in the wind, i see the flowers!! lol never noticed them before with all her hair!
DeleteAnonymous, 12 June 2017 at 14:34, as that was the only time these shoes were worn in public, I was curious to find out if they could tell me something in terms of sartorial diplomacy. It turns out that Catherine's entire outfit CAN (NOT MUST or WAS INTENDED to) be read as a tribute to all 8 victims of the latest attack by referencing their countries (Spain 1, Australia 2, France 3, Canada 1, UK 1) in one way or the other.
DeleteHere is some new-to-me info/what I already knew:
Manilo Blahnik heels
- were worn on way to Canada
- MB was born in Spain, studied in France, lives partly in the UK, works in London
- he received a number of prestigious British awards and is Honorary Commander of the British Empire
Rebecca Taylor suit
- blue is the main/one colour of the national flags of Australia, France, UK
- several French national sports teams are known as "the blue ones", apparently due to the blue shirts they wear for home matches
- was worn on way to Australia
- RT was born down under, in N.Z.
Sapphires:
- Australia has an important sapphire industry
I am not saying that any of this was intended when choosing to wear this outfit. It's just what I see.
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ReplyDeleteI just noticed Kate on the news, and here you are! You are so quick!! I cannot tell you all how relieved I am that Kate showed up and supported the injured in this horrible attack. I do wonder if she has been away with her parents and the kids though?
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That's a good point. Maybe she HAS been away recently with the kids and her family. Hmmmmm..... :)
DeleteShe may have been away with the family on vacation after all the wedding activities. She looked tan. And, the article by Simon Perry in People said that she was surprised to know that some of the stab victims had been women.
DeleteI doubt she reads the news. She probably has a direct royal link to what's really going on. Maybe they gave her a brief synopsis while they were on vacation. Glad she encouraged workers, consoled patients, and conferred with administration on available counseling. The visit had to be "impromptu" so as to avoid the stress of Royal pomp and circumstance and media.
That she waited was no doubt more from an existent guideline of the hospital than of Kate being uncaring in any way. Hospitals have stringent guidelines for everything for insurance purposes, HEPA regulations, critical care protocols, security protocols.
Ok, nobody jump all over me please because I'm not saying this to be catty but I'm wondering if she was sick becase she looks awfully tired for someone who just had three weeks off. I see the tan but she looks the opposite of someone who is just off of some r and r.
Deletelol, Erika. Not jumping on you. :) I think she looks fine. I was happy to see that because I think she has looked a little tired in recent previous outings.
DeleteI agree Erika, I kept going back and looking at the photos, she does look very tired around the eyes.
DeleteI hope she reads the news!! I also would think she would know about what happened too -- like women being killed and wounded. If she didn't (and I SO hope that is not true), that is being unprepared at best, and appalling at worst.
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DeleteI agree. But I bet, her wrinkles will disappear on Friday:)
Morning sickness? The pregnancy talk seems to be high again.
DeleteI think comments can be twisted to however they want it to sound in an article. Reading here, it says that the staff found it hard that so many of the victims were women. They were used to stabbings, but not so many injured women. That makes sense. I had not thought of that either, and unless you were directly involved, you wouldn't think to reflect on just that particular detail.
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Bluhare. That comment was reported by Simon Perry, "People". I don't know how reliable he is or isn't.
DeleteThere hasn't been a lot information released about the people injured in the London Bridge attacks. It took a relatively long time for the names of the people that died to come out. So it would not be well known until the staff told the Duchess that a lot of the victims were women.
DeleteErika, I also noticed that Kate does look quite tired but I noticed it a few months ago. It's clear that she has stopped wearing liner on the lower lid and still wears it on the upper lid, to me it makes her upper lid look heavier. Kate's complexion is flawless and it's understandable that she would look different with less / no make-up on, wouldn't we all? Lol!
DeleteOr perhaps she's recovering from a cold. I know that I often look like a completely different person when I study for exams lol so I'm thinking that maybe she's been busy with other stuff too.
Love Avee in SA
Avee, off and on I agree that Kate can look tired but I thought she looked great at the flower show, so just surprised she looks worn out here after all that time off.
DeleteGreat to see...the suit looks lovely, too. Look forward to the updated post. Thanks, Charlotte.
ReplyDeleteHappy to see Kate lending her support. What she wore today is so not important. Just my take on the matter, but having the visits of HM, William, Charles, and now Kate occur several days apart from one another, vs all of them being seen at hospitals, etc. a day or two afterwards, may have been a deliberate effort to help keep media/public attention and support focused on these horrific events.
ReplyDeleteHmm i love the coat. And i can see its an unofficial enagement maybe she saw comments online she lacking royal duties.
ReplyDeleteor maybe is was something else. folks have to remember that there are always other things going on.
DeleteGood to see this take place. Kate could have been wearing a paper bag for all I care. I am sure her visit lifted the spirits of those affected - and hopefully gives some soothing to those still struggling. What a terrible thing they have all been through. I can't begin to imagine their horror both patients and staff. God bless all!
ReplyDelete(Don't know if others commented between my first and this comment or if I'm spamming but am commenting while the event is still ongoing..)
ReplyDeleteA suprising addition to the "standard visit after attack/accident" (too horrible that is a needed thing!) was the meeting with talk of how staff, patients and family are psychologically supported. GREAT addition today! It ties in very nicely with their general mental health focus and is SUCH a big deal after events like this. Not only are there terrible injuries to treat, but there are long lasting traumatic effects on people injured and the people around after events like these. I think it's great that this was highlighted during this visit! Impressive (whoevers idea it was. Staff, hospital, Kate, whoever doesn't matter. It was clever!)
I agree Rebecca but (the dreaded but!) couldn't both have been done? One early visit and then this as an ideal follow up? That would make a grand total of 2 appearances in support of Manchester and London.
DeleteI feel very strongly on this because this "figurehead" role is the chief purpose of the royals. I often tell American friends and in-laws that the US could use a President/Prime Minister set up as it's so big, a lot of ground to cover! The UK has the royals as HoS, the Prime Minister for business, likewise Ireland has the President and Taoiseach. (Americans are often amused that the President of Ireland has no real power!) My husband always says "Here, the President has to do it all, run the country and pardon the turkey!" :)
I see more "I don't care anymore" or "I'm bored" comments which as I've said is a slow poisonous drip for monarchy. Kate let the side down here in my opinion, and I think if there was something that the children were sick etc, William should have said "Kate wishes she could have come with me but we've got a bug going round the house right now!"
That said, I think the Queen and DoE, Charles and Camilla and William and Harry did very well. I do wish they had put out an actual statement after London, but perhaps the Queen feels it's time to take Maggie's approach from the 80's: "We must try to find ways to starve the terrorist and the hijacker of the oxygen of publicity on which they depend."
But it HAS been done. Just not by Kate personally. But early and later visits by the top 3 tiers of the royals have been done.
DeleteAnd this comment I made here wasn't even mentioning the early/later event part. Just commenting on the "psychological help" part of the event!
Rebecca, I do appreciate you looking at the bright side; I do. But no where is is said that Kate can only do one visit per attack, and she has not gone to Manchester.
DeleteBut before you yell at me, I do appreciate her finally making an effort today. Even if it was only for an hour and ten minutes total.
I have not said anything of the sort bluhare. She could do many, and she could have gone to visit Manchester victims. But it seems like the royals think 2 visits is enough (and I quite agree). She could have gone to one of the earlier ones, it would have been great. But other royals did. Top royals. These 3 attacks have had 2 visits each from the top 3 level royals. Kate did one of those, William 2, Charles 2, Camilla one and the Queen one.
DeleteAnd yell? I do not yell at people here Blu! The HAS was instead of cursive.
Yes but other royals had more working engagements as well where they commented on or in some way acknowledged the tragedies. So they were seen to be out there with the people, feeling the mood. Kate had no visit of sympathy and no other work so it stood out.
DeletePhooey, becks. I like it when you yell at me.
Deletefunny, Bluhare. :)
DeleteGood for Kate. Her visit mirrors William's to the Manchester hospital. I am glad to see the senior royals taking turns and covering the various hospitals. It was also appropriate to visit patients in private. One oddity - the DM talks of her "touching down," as though she arrived by helicopter. I assume that was a deliberate implication. Surely she was driven, unless she traveled from Anmer?
ReplyDeleteThanks, Charlotte, for adding the videos that show the cars, and Kate getting into one of them! Her serious security guy looked around extra cautiously.
DeleteSorry but this is so predictable. Just as the Where's Kate comments hit fever pitch on Twitter and online, a "surprise" appearance? And with a tan. Not taking anything away from the victims and staff, but in the US we call this a day late and a dollar short.
ReplyDeleteShe is a real disappointment to me, I thought she'd have more substance as a royal woman. Please no one worry about her being compared to Diana. No comparison. Diana would have been at every bedside at every hospital.
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DeleteThe same group of people complaining in blog comments and on twitter is hardly a "fever pitch". And what does a tan have to do with anything?
DeleteThe tan was in reference to the suggestion that Kate may have been away on family holiday after the wedding.
DeleteCourt, I do believe that the Tan reference was more folks *speculating* on what kate is or isnt doing to their satisfaction.
DeleteAgreed Anna! +1
DeleteAnna, I agree with you too. Somehow I don't feel the sincerity in this visit. I don't doubt her good intentions of the visit, but it almost seems like she was forced to do it,, Charlotte, your post is a very touching tribute to the resilient spirit of the UK.
DeleteAnna- I agree with you as well. Because Kate makes very few appearances, there is a regular discussion/speculation about why she hasn't been seen for an extended time, whether she does anything "behind the scenes", etc. None of us know, but it feels like many people come up with excuses for Kate to justify her absence, her lack of preparation or why it took so long for her to make this appearance. My opinion is that she just doesn't enjoy royal duties/work- she is well-mannered at her appearances, but she really does what appears to be the bare minimum- the bottom line is (again, my opinion) if she enjoyed her "work", she would do more. It feels like there are so many excuses about why she can't/won't do more when I can't help but feel like none of those excuses would stop her if she really wanted to do more. It doesn't make sense to me that the royal family would hold her back- she is part of their "team" and her popularity strengthens that of the whole team. The idea that she is being sidelined to protect C &C sounds like "cutting off your nose to spite your face"- it damages the very institution she is part of. I'm a SAHM, so I absolutely support mothers who do this, but she just isn't the average mom whose husband supports their family- she is a public figure whether she enjoys it or not and the public rightfully has expectations that she carries out royal duties. I'm sorry to ramble and get off topic- I rarely comment, but have given this a lot of thought. Thank you to Charlotte for this wonderful blog where we are able to have a place to share our views! -JF
DeleteHad a down moment at work refreshed this and was (pleasantly surprised) to see this posting...
ReplyDeleteI will say my honest reaction out loud was "About time!" (My next door office mate must have wondered what that was about). I will say my feeling is this was long overdo. Grateful she went. Sorry it took so long. Hope this never reoccurs again, but if it does, I hope we need not wonder where she is and when she'll appear.
Glad to see the visit! The snoop in me still wonders where she has been and hopes that all is well in the Cambridge household. I agree the timing of the visit from a recovery point of view is good though.
ReplyDeleteLol Jo, you are not alone. My inner investigator is also curious about her absence of late. I think that the pregnancy rumors have been put to rest. I do wonder though if she is physically packing up stuff in preparation for their move to KP.
DeleteI'm really happy that the royals have made these unannounced visits to hospitals. What a lovely surprise it must have been to those in hospital who thought that it was going to be a blue Monday :)
I hope to see the children at Trooping the Colour again this year and I really hope that Kate looks even better than last year :) I just love seeing those lovely family pictures, they should be on postcards!
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She won't have to pack up everything to move like most moves would require.
DeleteThey are keeping Amner Hall intact as their weekend or holiday retreat. So it isn't as much of a big deal logistically as some might think. Of course, leaving idyllic Norfolk as their primary residence will be sad, no doubt. But they will still have Amner Hall as one of their secondary residences.
And, their home at Kensington Palace is already complete and has been for years. They are used to transitioning from Amner Hall to Kensington Palace and have certainly done that many times already.
Caroline. Nope. lol. Just making logical assumptions given the reported fact that they will be maintaining Amner as a secondary home and on the fact that their residence at Kensington Palace has been established already for some time now.
DeleteGiven those facts I think the burden will be less than gathering up the entirety of a household and transporting it to another building. In addition, Kate has a team of helpers and more helpers available, most likely, should she need them.
The Royals historically are used to changing dwellings from one season to another, i.e., the Queen to Windsor, Sandringham, and Balmoral.
Just logical observations similar to those made here on other topics since this blog's inception.
Certainly didn't mean to offend or rile anyone.
Well, Caroline, apparently you've missed all the articles about setting up their apartment at Kensington Palace, and the refurbishments they did at Anmer Hall. They have two homes, both fully furnished. My guess is they may even have clothes at both places, but that I do not know for sure. Anyway, they will still be occupying both residences, just now at London more. Children's toys,personal clothing, etc. will probably be about it. And I seriously doubt they'll be doing it themselves.
DeleteI grew up with two homes hours apart and i can say for sure that you still do bring things back and forth, depends on the seasons, clothes and what you have going on. especially with the kids toys etc, its not like they have 2 of Everything! I really didn't think i was being "harsh and snarky" to surfer girl, and surfer girl said no such thing, but it was nice of you to come to her defense "Anonymous" whoever you truly are. just pointing out we cant always "know".
DeleteCaroline. Sorry if I didn't clarify. To me it is a given that the "ordinary" stuff be transited back and forth, like favorite toys, perhaps certain outfits, but not the bulk of stuff like people usually refer to when someone is moving from one place to another. Both Amner Hall and Kensington Palace are already furnished, decorated and established.
DeleteAnd it is totally a guess on my part but I would not be surprised if Kate has duplicates of a lot of "ordinary" stuff. Moreso than the average person. She can afford it and so why would she cart stuff around unnecessarily. Just a guess. I have lived in "double" homes and transited very little. I learned that quickly. :)
That's okay, Caroline. No harm. No foul.
Delete(See, I do watch sports sometimes.) :)
I agree with you Caroline in Montana as I had divorced parents growing up and was constantly going from one parent to another on weekends, after school, on birthdays etc and I can say with quite some certainty that it's not as easy as just taking your toothbrush lol!
DeleteSurfer girl, I was not disputing the fact that the Cambridge's have 2 furnished homes and I am aware that they divide their time between KP and Anmer Hall but I was just taking an educated guess as to the reason for her absence from public duties. I really doubt that they will just be taking 4 toothbrushes to KP, there must SOME things that require boxing.
When I was growing up, my dad owned 2 houses on the same road. The 2nd was bought with the intention to re-model from the ground up and somehow he ended up moving into that house. He swore that he would not take a thing from the old house and would furnish the new house from scratch but he still ended up taking certain things which had grown to have sentimental value to him over the years.
Especially with kids, sentimental things can't really be repli-Kate-d ;)
Love Avee in SA
These are extremely wealthy people with help. Guaranteed Kate was not spending three weeks packing and labeling boxes. She needs to have one meeting with her staff stating what needs to be moved from Anmer to KP and it will be done.
DeleteThat seems very realistic to me, Katy.
DeleteThe London attack occurred on June 3. Here is Catherine on the 12th. That's a very reasonable 9-day interval. Let's remember that the royals are not apps. We shouldn't expect instant responses. Plus, in those early days the doctors don't need royals hanging about while they are dealing with the urgent cases and chaos caused when the busiest emergency ward in the city is pushed into overdrive.
ReplyDeleteI've read some of the post-attack synopsis online. What a challenge for the hospital, staff and first responders. Off duty doctors & nurses rushing in to assist, all operating theaters going full tilt, doctors & nurses about to go off duty staying on. I'm sure they all welcome the Duchess's appearance and gratitude so much more now that they have had time to slow down.
No doubt the old, familiar arguments will resurface as they did in the thread before this; however, I have never been embarrassed to choose patience and benefit of the doubt over quick judgement without the facts. I can't say the same for the latter.
Manchester was 22 May though Philly.
DeleteIndeed Claudia. The Queen and William made visits to events involving Manchester. This time C&C and Kate did.
DeleteCould not agree more Philly, thank you for your comment!
DeleteI have read this blog for a long time and certain comments before have got my goat, but I've never felt compelled to reply until now.. .
DeleteBy Philly's count, Kate's visit was ahead of schedule. The attack in Manchester occurred on the 22nd May and Prince William visited the first responders on the 2nd June - which to my calculations is 11 days. The reason that his visit is fresh in people's minds is because it was the day before the attack in London. I'm with Philly on this, I am one to give people the benefit of the doubt first.
My sister works in a busy hospital and there is nothing worse than dignitaries swarming on the place en masse when they are dealing with major traumas. The hospital administration has to be aware of their security, their needs and requirements and deal with this appropriately before it is even safe to visit and the first priority should always be the patients. The UK was on the highest terror alert at the time. London police would be investigating the attack, not worrying about giving the royals extra protection.
Rant aside, I love Kate's focus on mental health and the importance she placed on the processing the trauma as well as dealing with the physical impacts.
Rebecca - I love your comments and feel I know you quite well. You do such a great job at offering a balanced view of things.
Sydney, thanks for your comment and the insight from your sister's job. It corresponds to what Jean from Lancs wrote above.
DeleteAnd I'd like to join you in what you - and many others here - say about Rebecca. 🇸🇪:)
Welcome Sydney Gal. Thanks for jumping into the friendly fray.
DeleteYes!! Excellent points. Visits are a big morale booster but are so distruptive. I work in an office, nothing critical but having a 'big wig' visit completely disrupts the day. I would imagine more so in a hospital with a royal visit. Not that the visits should stop but sometimes it might be a problem when the visits do happen. And no one would really come out and say it. I know at my job we all have to be supportive and talk about how glad we are to see higher ups. I can imagine the backlash some employees would get if they expressed publicly disatisfaction with a royal visit.
DeleteWe shouldn't expect immediate responses? What if the London mayor or major British politicians including Theresa May had chosen to wait days for a public response to these attacks? They aren't apps either..
DeleteIt was probably very smart of Kate and her staff to plan her visit like this. Had she gone the same day and time as other royals, she would have had top billing in the papers and online. I like it that she remained out of sight and let the others visit first.
ReplyDeleteKari, I agree that it was very smart to "only" visit today - not stealing anybody's thunder.
DeleteMy immediate thought was: IS SOMEBODY READING THIS BLOG??? (which, by the way, would be a GREAT source for ANY PR staff working for the Duchess - or shall I say a "must read"?!!).
ReplyDeleteBut I agree, a visit several days later, when things have "settled down" a bit (if that ever happens after such a horrible incident...), actually is a very good idea. Plus, a "surprise" visit reduces the pressure on everyone as I guess there is less media outside which would only disturb the patients and the staff inside.
I´m glad both staff and patients receive psychological support. Serious long-term effects can be reduced or even avoided if people have access to specific psychological support after having had to experience such horror. The closer to the incident it starts, the better, so it´s vital that nurses and doctors know what signs to look for. Untreated trauma can make the physical recovery much more difficult as well... I´m glad the staff is included,too. I know it´s their job and you are trained for that as staff working in an emergency unit, for example, still it´s an amazing job these people are all doing and they deserve only the best support!
All the royal visits in these cases are "surprise visits", or rather.. embargoed visits. Both for security sake, but mostly for the hospitals sake to avoid the public and media impacting the treatments going on at the hospital. Just common sense really.
DeleteI agree with your whole comment :)
Better late than never. May all those people affected by the attack find healing and optimism within themselves as well.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful sentiment for the victims and their families Anon :)
DeleteThat is so true Anon 15. I am reminded of a time when the Queen received severe criticism for her absence following Diana's death. Whatever the Queen's reasons for her delay, the fact remains that she did come out and show her support. "Better late than never". In this manner the same for Kate. Whether or not it was planned, unplanned, or due to public comments, whatever the reasons, it does not matter, because the fact is Kate did make an appearance and the positive benefits of such support far outweigh any negative speculation to the contrary. The focus should be on the message of continued support and healing for all involved. cc
DeleteI think the timing of the visit should be taken at face value that this was just the best opportunity. This isn't a royal visiting a playground or school. This is a hospital and trauma situation. We have no idea of the severity of the victims or the dictates of the doctors and hospital administration regarding this. Yes she is royal, however in this setting she doesn't dicatate the rules...the doctors do. In addition it was an unplanned event...so we do not know what obligations were on the duchess' calendar. Yes I know people like to assume that when we don't see her she is sitting at home doing nothing but I don't agree.
ReplyDeleteI am going to take this as the first opportunity that was available regarding permission from the medical personnel and calendar conflicts.
As to her attire...recycled understated outfit was perfect...focus is exactly where it should be.
Well stated. And I agree with you. The medical staff tell them when it is ok to visit b
DeleteBy the looks of her, she's been doing all that behind the scenes work by her swimming pool.
DeleteAnd apparently, they gave Charles permission quite a few days ago.
What tan? Compare today to the 2012 and 2014 photos. Much more color there. Today she was wearing hose on her legs and she was in shadows entering and I think exiting. Then there is lovely tinted moisturizer for the face. Actually, I hope she and the little ones have had some pool time.
DeleteThe way these stories get started and spread is amazing to me.
As I wrote above, the visits followed the order of precedence: Queen, Charles, William and then Kate. Nothing unusual there. Abagail
Then perhaps Kate's been doing all that charity work indoors, Abagail. You make it sound like it's a bad thing to tan on your three weeks off.
DeleteBluhare, :))))
DeleteI am so glad! I don't mind at all the gaps between engagements but this visit had to be paid. Not because of PR, monarchy, taxpayers money... Simply because it was the right thing to do, because people are suffering and she can bring them comfort. She should do it and am happy she did.
ReplyDeleteNatacha, you said it for me! :) My sentiments exactly.
DeleteWell Zora, you should know that most of the time I don't feel the need to write anything because you have already said it and better!
Delete:) Thank you for your kind words, Natacha.
DeleteI keep wondering how these attacks will affect the BRF. At a minimum, it must mean an increase in security. Will it affect their engagements?
ReplyDeleteI've been curious about that too.
DeleteCharlotte I have to take a minute to tell you how beautifully written this post was, it really touched me. Lovely tribute. Well done. X
ReplyDeleteThank you very much Claudia!
DeleteI agree with Claudia, Charlotte. You really do put a lot of effort into your posts.
DeleteCharlotte, this is well up to your usual excellent standard and I so agree with Claudia. Thank you for all your work.
DeleteCount me in too! As always meticulously researched and a pleasure to read.
DeleteJennie and Natacha, I agree. Things had to stabilize as much as possible before a visit. Some are still in intensive care and all the people involved still need our prayers.
ReplyDeletePrince Charles and Camilla visited last week FYI
DeleteThe visits were staggered and I think that's a good thing. Also, different hospitals have different guidelines.
DeleteGood move, and I do agree with everyone about the timing. Just happy to see her out there, and reaching out. Not only to the victims and their families, but the hospital staff too.
ReplyDeleteI guess I am just a bit confused as to why some people seem to believe that Kate herself is the entire monarchy. That's also why I don't really understand the engagement tallying and competition. The monarchy works together as a FAMILY. While the younger royals have carved out their own unique roles, they are essentially one whole. So please explain to me why Kate needs to be the one to do everything, first and only, to appease...? The Queen visited, Charles visited, William and Harry visited, Kate visited. They all are doing their part. If Kate visited when William and/or Harry did and they visited now, would we be having this conversation? I don't think so. I guess I really enjoy and see the monarchy working as a whole rather than just following Kate. It's much bigger than just one person. Anyway, just my two cents :)
ReplyDeleteAlex, I agree in that even if Kate's numbers matched the Queen's there would still be a contingent that would find something to criticize Kate for.
Deletewonderfully put Alex, thank you for the level headed comment!!
DeleteSHe doesn't need to do anything first. But she does need to put out a little effort and perhaps show a little empathy.
DeletePerfectly put, Alex! Kate is not the entire monarchy (as much as some of us might want or EXPECT her to be), they work together!
DeleteI have thought about you all across the pond often in recent weeks. Take care, Charlotte!
well, there's the problem. Empathy is not something you show; it is something you feel. She has shown compassion over and over in her work with children and their families. Don't take my word for it. Read what they and charity workers and leaders have said after nearly every visit and sometimes we learn of it much later. Abagail
DeleteHarry didn't visit any of the hospitals or emergency services. However, I didn't see anyone outraged by this. I did see people complaining that Kate didn't visit.
DeleteWhile he may not have visited the injured terror victims, during the 3 weeks Kate was "MIA" Harry went to Australia for Invictus, held a moment of silence for terror victims before playing polo for Sentebale in Singapore, hosted a garden party at BP for injured veterans, hosted another for Wellchild, and met with Obama at KP. He may have done more..that list is just off the top of my head. I think people may have focused more on Kate not visiting victims because there were two atrocious attacks during her absence AND unlike Harry, she didn't seem to be doing anything else that was visible to the public. (And this is a Kate blog not a Harry blog!) Also though, often in defense of W&K's schedules people will say they don't need to step up now because Will is not next in line for the throne. By that reasoning, Harry certainly doesn't need to step up since W&G&C are all in front of him after Charles.
DeleteI do read Abagail. I also think that people who feel empathy show it. And not by turning up and having their photo taken. You've yet to provide information I've asked you for twice now to back up your assertion that she does all this. Please, if she does, I'll give her all the credit in the world. I haven't seen it.
DeleteI think it was planned and they didn't tell anyone for security reasons... just like the Queen's visit to the victims in Manchester. I think this is the reason there's a lack of engagements during this time, we all thought she would have been seen on Friday when maybe she had had planned this engagement since the day after the attack.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why she did not have worn her gorgeous shoes anymore. They are so pretty.
Does anyone know if the Duchess usually wear a pair of tights?
I have to agree with Claudia, your post was very moving, Charlotte. The pain is still very raw & the senseless loss of innocent lives is unfathomable. Thank you for showing the images of those that lost their lives in the London Bridge/Borough Market attack. I really pray & hope that these awful attacks cease.
ReplyDeleteYour coverage was poignant. An exceptional page amongst many. Again Charlotte, yours is the gold standard of journalism. I don't know if that was your major at university but you do excel at it.
DeleteThank you very much ladies!
DeleteI agree, of course, but I get the feeling some of the comments don't seem to live up to your post-compassion, generosity of spirit, and I think a bit of hope-in your post. and echoed in some comments.
Deleteit is very funny to me when people who were almost calling for her head the other day are now actually thinking it over and now saying, ok yes, maybe a delayed appearance is ok, and maybe she did have things going on or maybe the hospital needed a break, or security or a vacation or whatever. wish folks would slow the quick to judge and realize that life is a marathon not a sprint. give the benefit of the doubt, not jump to criticizing.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see some cooler heads prevailing here in the comments today, so far anyway, sometimes i get worn out by the repeated negativity and have to check out for a while:(
Thanks again for the wonderful blog Charlotte, i am a bit behind but agree with seeing updates on PW, think we can get a broader glipse of her life.
thinking of all those affected by these horrible tragedy's.
I've been very worn down by the negativity, unfair criticism, and judgment on this blog of late, and I am struggling to feel comfortable even commenting anymore.
DeleteIm with you Sarah, I have been here for many years and i don't often comment and sometimes have to skip the comments all together. but like i said i am still here reading the blog and most of the comments to see if there is any Good insight. It is to me very sad that people can be so judgemental, and they are women mostly, bashing another woman! isn't this a way of giving another person mental issues? (YES) isn't that what the heads together campaign is all about trying to conquer? it starts with everyone. Did peoples mothers not tell them what mine told me?? "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything" for im sure that none of these ladies would say these things to kates face.
DeleteOh, Sarah, it would be such a pity not to have you commenting! I've been missing your comments lately, I always found them balanced and interesting. Any hope of re-opening your blog?
DeleteI agree ladies. I've stopped reading comments and contributing for awhile too because of the tone. I respect every ones opinions and feel strongly that people should express what they feel.
DeleteBut the same tone, words, sentiment in each post is becoming overwhelming. The joy of participating has been lost for me except when strong feelings prevail.
I was hoping this visit would have brought more uplifting discussions but I see the same themes persist regardless of the engagement/announcement etc.
Sarah US - sadly, I've felt the same way :(
DeleteI echo comments from 20:00 to 22:09 above. Sometimes instead of bowing out, I have tried to inject a note of empathetic reason and a reminder of the facts (which is often that we don't have any but are making conjectures). I think about the many times I have been misjudged or censured or subjected to petty remarks based on false assumptions others have made about my actions or my motives.
DeleteIn some cases (and sometimes the vibe is eerily similar here) I received negative job reviews and demerits for things that I had not done from someone who knew nothing about the circumstances and failed to learn the facts. The last thing I want to do is subject anyone else to the same. I'd rather give someone the benefit of the doubt and be wrong. That's easier to live with than assigning blame where it's not deserved.
Because the tone of the comments over the last several months has become overwhelmingly negative and judgmental, I have avoided reading the majority of them. Of course, I still thoroughly read the blog posts. Charlotte, please know how very much I appreciate and value the work and passion you invest here. One of the reasons I joined this community was as an "escape" to some of the stressors in my life, particularly the severe depression and PTSD I live with. But, sadly, the comment section feels like a punching bag, where William and Kate are the targets. I just cannot take it anymore. The media does enough punching of their own. And, quite frankly, I feel that the criticism of William and Kate is not deserved or warranted. I've stated my reasons for this several times, and will refrain from restating them.
DeleteFor those of you who offer balanced insights and do not seek to criticize and judge at every turn, thank you for taking the "road less traveled" as Robert Frost would say. Indeed, it is at the precise road (of compassion, empathy, trust, and giving people the benefit of the doubt) that makes all the difference.
Agree with all you ladies. I rarely comment here because I don't want to jump into the negativity; I really come for Charlotte's wonderful posts. The truth is that no one outside of Kate and her family knows what she is doing when, and why certain events are scheduled for her and why some are not. I maintain that she is doing a lovely job as a new royal and a new mother in the public eye, and I hope she continues to put her focus on her family and what is in their best interests.
DeleteMe too. :( It actually brings me down and I think it's because usually the comments here are reasonable until lately. What's going on in your own life that saying something negative about someone you don't even know feels good?
DeleteAnyway, very thankful for the positive, intelligent commenters here and thankfully that is still the majority here. :)
From a different perspective, I find the most negative comments are from those people criticising other people's posts. The people who find Kate lacking at times, almost without exception, confine their comments to that. I wish other people could do the same and confine their comments to the subject of the blog too.
DeleteI agree. Their comments reflect more about them than the subject they are commenting on.
DeleteCaroline in Montana - and all of you dear fellow bloggers who share her sentiments.... You echoe my sentiments, too.
DeleteI come to this blog for - well, NOT for negativity!!! I know so well which world we all live in and I know that the Duchess can not "offer" us "magic and the Princess´life" at all times in order to offer us a break from all our daily "lots".... But in all honesty - that´s what I originally came here for. Lovely clothes, lovely pictures, attractive young people "with no worries in the world"...the lot. A "fairy tale" I just wanted to "be part of" for a minute, just by watching it "unfold". Now, that might sound naive and superficial - which I´m both definitely NOT, according to whoever knows me - but that´s how it is. That´s why I literally "jumped" onto Pippa´s wedding coverage - FINALLLY, something positive, with happy people everywhere I look! What a welcome break that was!
It might sound like "going too far", but I compare the negativity I experience everywhere, even on this blog, to what I experience with "my smokers": I move (come here to this blog) in order to get fresh, healthy air (see lovely pictures, enjoy "watching the Duchess" so to speak) - and what happens? Again, I have to deal with people´s "unresolved issues" that directly affect my own wellbeing!! @florida girl: you expressed it perfectly: "What´s going on in your own life that saying somehting negative (or smoking in my case, i.e. filling the air with stinking smoke and hurting others in the process) about someone you don´t even know, feels good?"
The result? I will have to move again - many dear commenters stop commenting. Isn´t this a sad world where people "solve" their problems on the back of the others? You start with "negativity" here, move to the smokers and end up with terrorists. The same thing all over again. And all will swear to you they have SUCH GOOD reasons for doing what they do and, of course, NEED to do it.
So, what to do about it? Personally, I am sick of fighting negativity in other people, trying to make them "see sense". More and more, I come to the conclusion that it´s best to "leave them be" and concentrate on what I came here for (/what is important to me): to enjoy following the Duchess´s life and lifestyle. When I see a "negative" comment - I let it pass. Let them "rant" - the more attention they get, the more they will do it.
Instead, I will gladly chime in on every "positive", ie constructive comment I see and support! Respectful, constructive thoughts and comments I will gladly "support" - "bashing", "hateful" and/or "condescending" ones I will "gladly" skip and ignore....
I hope you will all find it in you to continue commenting. Please don´t stop - we all need your positive energy and constructive thoughts!
Excellent point, bluhare!😁🖒
DeleteVery true Bluhare- that's actually why I stopped commenting here.
DeleteKat, it's great to see you! I wish you were around more often, but it is nice to see you now. And thank you, Anett. :)
DeleteNow, for my actual comment:
>>Anonymous13 June 2017 at 02:59
I agree. Their comments reflect more about them than the subject they are commenting on.<<
Please, 0259, do tell what our comments reveal about us.
Im going to back up bluhare here. I find that the only comments that scream negativty here are ones personally directed at others. Like Eve, I'm basically here for the escapist fairytale but we can't have rose colored glasses on all the time and avoid reality. The "negative" issues brought up here are real and to deny they are important to the longevity of the BRF is being naive imo.
DeleteI think this blog has something for everyone. If you are here for the fashion and the positive comments, you can read and respond to those. If you love a good debate and are concerned about how things within the BRF are being handled, there are threads to particioate in for that. I think we can all coexist on this forum, and pick and choose our pleasure as long as respect for others enters into the equation.
I think a bit of both. The general jumping on critique is just as tiring and negative as some of the (to my mind) far reached and over-emphasised critiques of the royals.
DeleteMe too. I am so thankful I am not the only one feeling reluctant to comment due to negativity of a lot of the comments.
DeleteErika, so nicely put!!! Pick and choose,isn't life is all about that too?:) xoxo
DeleteI think there are several sentiments here that come back in many posts.
ReplyDeleteI agree that this visit is lovely, I hope she will keep doing visits like these, although I intensely hope there won't be any attack victims to visit for a long time.
I would like to add that I hope there will be a follow up visit in half a year, more related to heads together to show that W&C understand that attacks like these do not only make physical but also deep emotional wounds, who might take long to heal.
Furthermore, all before mentioned members of the royal family who have paid visits are "higher in rank" than Kate and therefore their visits mean more, even when we would prefer to see Kate. The timing of her visit is therefore both explained by time to calm things down and her being not the highest ranked member.
However: we did not see the duchess since the wedding of her sister, which was a family event and haven't seen her in official duty for a while now. It is clear from many comments that people think this is not good for the monarchy and I agree with that. I think that after a pretty good start of the year Kate has had quite the break.
Although there might be work done behind the scenes, it is very important that she stays "in the picture" to give people the feeling that she is "working".
I do not say she should have visited a hospital or anything related to the attacks, I think she should do anything and while at an appointment tell people how she feels about the attacks. Breaks like these are bad for her image and I think her PR team should know better by now.
Good to see her at the hospital!
ReplyDeleteCould it be that her staff are following this blog? ;-)
I'm glad she brought up the issue of emotional support for the staff as well.
Caroline. I think the visit was planned before any comments of dissatisfaction were expressed here. I do believe though that in other instances her team has most definitely read our comments and responded accordingly. :) It would be remiss of them not to read DKB. If they want a litmus on thoughtful public opinion they can find it here.
ReplyDeleteI hope that they do. I think most people here are really very thoughtful and polite and a lot of great ideas and suggestions have been shared.
DeleteI do not agree that anyone on Kate's staff reads blogs about her. I think they focus on the major reputable newspapers and TV news. The fashion blogs are fun reading for me however.
DeleteAfter over 200 posts- most criticizing Catherine Im very pleased to see this event. This clearly was in the planning stages last week prior to all the comments and addressed the tie in to mental health just perfectly.
ReplyDeleteAs for their choice of events- they are absolutely right to go solo at the moment. As parents it is the responsible thing to do. If they go anywhere together and God forbid they were caught up in something then 2 children could loose their parents. We've seen how that turned out... 20 years and therapy.
Not a fan of this suit as I think the jacket is too short but overall she looks great as always.
Erininnyc.
Glad to see the Duchess of Cambridge visiting and showing support for the victims and hospital staff of the latest terrorist attack. She looked lovely as usual, but what she wore was not important when you consider the violence and aftermath of this incident. Well done, Duchess Catherine. The staff appeared very pleased with your visit and staff comments have been positive.
ReplyDeleteInteresting how short our memories are. The gap in Kate's engagements was caused by the postponement of a State visit due to a snap election being called. Had that not happened we would be fighting over how appropriate a tiara was now.
ReplyDeleteOn a more serious note thank you Charlotte for a superb post. Always well written with integrity.
I think the timing of all the visits was appropriate and liked that some were immediate and some like Kate's delayed and my hope is that there will be more visits from the Royal Family in the future especially in Manchester where the nature of the injuries means for some there will be very long periods of rehabilitation.
My thoughts and prayers are with all of those whose lives are never going to be the same again.
Thanks for the timely reminder alimai. There have been numerous extenuating circumstances in the mix.
DeleteFollowing up on the last post, I enormously enjoyed (re)watching the following films, documentaries and interviews with Prince Philip.
ReplyDeleteAt the Polo :)
so sporty! Duke Of Edinburgh Plays Polo (1957) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cza0mKk2uf4
Princess Anne!! The Prince Plays Polo - 1959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TUx32Xo5g
HMTQ giving out the trophy, so cute :) Duke Of Edinburgh Plays Polo (1960) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbLnVt2DNaM
Superbe documentaries/interviews with the always brilliant Prince Philip:
!!!!! The Duke: A Portrait of Prince Philip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR2zJw7obM0
!!!! The Duke at 90
!!! Interview from 1984 - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh - Thames Television https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aWX0Uao4hI
!! When Phillip met Prince Philip 60 years of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards, including Catherine right from 0:00 :)
! Prince Philip 70 Years of Service
I prefer this suit of Kate's to the very similar, more recently-worn one by the same designer, with the layered skirt.
ReplyDeleteI live not far from where the terrorists lived. The attack was horrific and shocking. I was watching the television in tears when I saw the reports.
I was thrilled to see that Kate made this visit today. I was especially struck by how she inquired after the well-being of both the victims and the responders/medical staff involved in the attack. It says to me that he focus on mental health is one she takes seriously and that she values how it can affect everyone. I am not sure on this, but I think while other members of the RF have commended the medical personnel involved in both of the recent attacks, no one has inquired after their emotional and mental needs (or at least it hasn't been reported). So good on Kate for making them feel seen and heard as well. I also appreciated that media was not invited into the victims rooms, and that those who Kate was able to visit with got the advantage of the one-on-one time without any other pressures.
ReplyDeleteAlthough this is not my favorite of Kate's outfits, I think it is a pretty and understated choice for the day, and I appreciate that she wore repeats that are not available for purchase anymore. As always, lovely to have a Kate sighting (although I wish the circumstances were different, of course) and beautiful post, Charlotte.
Prince William definitely mentioned the mental health needs of those responding to attacks during his Manchester visit and the Queen did so about the Manchester victims.
DeleteGreat to see Kate out again. I do like the dress and appreciate the repeat so as to not take away from the focus.
ReplyDeleteGood to see Kate visiting the hospital. It is clear that her visit was greatly appreciated and good that she visited the other hospital involved in taking in the patients to the one C & C visited. I feel that by the topics covered and thee people she met a considerable amount of thought and planning had gone into the visit and the time lapse was appropriate.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was special that Kate wanted to make sure the medical and ancillary teams were getting the emotional support if needed. She knows about William's experiences and feelings in working in rescue and emergency trauma care. He has said that his team has the emotional support in place. I am sure that Kate still bears a lot of his burden also.
ReplyDeleteJust want to mention that when I previously questioned why there might be a long gap in between engagements for Kate, it was no way intended as a criticism. Being American, I don't really have an opinion on what she should or should not be doing. I was just (selfishly) hoping it meant she was home with morning sickness!
ReplyDeleteThanks to those who understand the symmetry of the visits in Manchester and London, with senior royals going sooner and William and Catherine following singly when things are calmer and the security level has been lowered. This pattern makes so much sense to me. I think, too, that memorial services will be a bit more delayed than the one that followed the first London attack, as a victim died after that service occurred.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate the wind giving us a good closeup of the neckline of the tweed suit. Kate is smart in this case to let her hair cover most of the neckline decor, which is not especially attractive. I wonder where she has been hiding those beautiful shoes! They were a perfect way to add a slight spark to a very familiar suit that was totally appropriate to the occasion.
Hi Charlotte....thank you for the beautiful post. I love these shoes. If you would like, could you post a pic when Kate wore them in Canada back in 2011? I can't see to think of the outfit off hand. Great to see Kate out again.
ReplyDeleteI'm certain they read comments here and the many comments that have arisen elsewhere and take note - but regardless of what led to the visit - it's good it happened.
ReplyDeleteNote to someone in previous comments - Diana did visit following one of the Irish bombings - I believe there was a royal response to every mass bombing.
I could not find one instance of an official royal response to an IRA attack, not even the Hyde Park/ Royal Barracks ones-whose victims included soldiers from the Blue and Golds Regiment, as well as bystanders and some 13 or so horses. One of the lost horses in the 1982 bombings was named Zara.
DeleteThe first instance I could find is the 2015 IS attack-the Queen responded verbally, I think. No visits that I could see. I think at least two factors influenced the royal response-or lack thereof to IRA bombings-which occurred from the 1970's to 1990's: 1) it was thought the point of terror attacks was to spread terror and fear, leading to disorganization. The end point isn't the act itself but the spread of the terror by the spread of the details, like a vicious virus. Publicity, especially of royal attention, was thought to aid the cause; 2) as the long siege of terror progressed, it was becoming clear that a response to each act was not useful. It just emphacises them. There were news articles in February this year that outlined an IS goal to make its attacks follow a similar pattern to the IRA bombings. A terrible prospect. It certainly has started that way. The royals may be looking at the long haul here. Quiet, unpublicized individual supportive visits may be better.
Of course, Lord Mountbatten's death was one of their own. He was family. Abagail
Julia, these are just my thoughts and theories, based upon what I have read, which is by no means an exhaustive study. I welcome your additions and corrections as a UK citizen and those of others here with first hand knowledge.
Just in case, here is Patricia's explanation of the Load More button:
ReplyDelete"Is everyone aware of the Load More button below the comments? You need to keep clicking it until it disappears, in order to see all of the messages. It appears when there are 200 comments, and continues in 50 message increments until the current number is reached."
Zora, thank you for letting me know you appreciated. :)
Patricia, I saw your :-). :)
People forget that the Queen, as sovereign, has absolute authority and control over Kate's carrying out of her official duties. Kate does not carry out ANY royal engagement without the Queen's say so. Kate will appear at the hospital when and if the Queen so wishes. (The DOE and PC apparently also have significant authority)Due to the election, the Queen canceled the Order of the Garter ceremony. HM also as well as cancelled Kate and William's joint trip to Belgium--I believe W went alone.
ReplyDeleteMy point is there are other very important reasons for Kate's absence from the public eye besides tans and pools. Please remember she is NOT in control of her own life--the sovereign is.
That's not true - it was stated years ago that Will and Kate decide their schedule. So in this instance it was Kates desicion to not work for almost a month- not the Queens.
DeleteWelcome back CuriousKat!!:))
DeleteAnon 5:12, those are completely inaccurate statements.
DeleteIt would be quite helpful if you could point out which parts of the post are not accurate? It would be most helpful for me, a lifelong fan of the Royals, to understanding this issue.
DeleteThe Queen is the sovereign and monarch, correct? Doesn't she have control and power over the members of royal family? HM insisted Prince Philip take an oath to obey her (per Netflix anyway1) Kate, like other royal brides, had to curtsy to the Queen during her marriage procession to and from the altar (though she forgot to on the way up the aisle, she did so on the way out? Didn't HM order Charles and Diana to divorce?
Does HM have all this power, but no say about royal duties? The British papers have reported for quite some time that W & K were told it was time to move from Amner Hall to KP and assume more royal duties. HM? POW?
Thanks so much Anett :)
DeleteIt's worth saying we don't know why Kate made this late visit. Perhaps it was planned all along. Or perhaps it was a response to comments here and elsewhere - about her absence. Because her visit came late, we can never be sure.
ReplyDeleteFor those who don't like criticism - I'm sorry - but just as it might be lovely to say that anything that a student did was wonderful - construction criticism is needed for him or her to develop to full potential. I fully believe blogs like this and other press are looked at responded to. If people don't feel they want to read negative comments, that's fine - but it's wise to be aware that the future of the royal family is not a certainty.
All royals need to be out there - no one is putting a particular burden on Kate although younger royals are going to need to attract the young - it's pointless to say pay attention to the older royals because it won't happen. Kate just happened to be the one not seen for the last weeks - Charles was active (even during election time) so was the queen, Philip, Sophie and Camilla. Harry was abroad. Kate was the only one not seen.
Every one of those young people who died could have been parents one day - so I don't support the idea that Kate should hide away with the children because they could lose their parents. The possibility of that loss applies to everyone.
Very well put Julia
DeleteYou know, you really should hang around more, CuriousKat. How am I ever going to get KatHare Kouture off the ground without you?
DeleteI am going to stay away from the debate about Kate's work schedule and the timing of this visit, other than to say as someone who has worked in crisis intervention and currently works in crisis recovery, what workers need (even if they dont say it) is someone to check in with their wellbeing days and weeks after a significant incident. In the days following an incident, workers are still in helper mode. Sometimes, there is no point asking how they are because they honestly wouldn't know. It is in the days and weeks afterwards that they have time to reflect. It seemed to me that a large part of this visit was to discuss the mental health of responders. If this was the case, it makes sense that there has been some time between the attack and this hospital visit.
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DeleteThank you, Sharyn, for a very valuable comment. I like your explanation of staff being in "helper mode" and only later being capable of reflection of their own needs. I think it is similar, in a way, to a mother being in "mother mode" when her kids urgently need her (when they're sick, injured, unhappy etc.), regardless of her current state. Only later (sometimes hours, sometimes days or weeks) she becomes capable of looking after herself.
DeleteI'm sure the hospital staff appreciated Kate's interest in their well-being and I believe her interest was real and deep.
Sharyn, thank you for sharing first-hand information about helper mode and what responders need after intervention. In light of what you said, I think that the timing for this particular visit was very appropriate.
DeleteThank you so much for the invaluable work you do for your community. Please (continue to) take good care of yourself and to educate me/us.
thank you Francis. I've taken a break during an...interesting...day at work and your reminder to take care of myself was needed and appreciated
DeleteCharlotte, I forgot to thank you before for your wonderful blog. As always you clarify for us what the visit was about and zero in on what is most important. For those of us who can't be there, you have become a dear friend who reports back to us on all that is best.
ReplyDeleteAnd golly do I need what is best! Not just because of all the ugliness and violence that is in the world but also because of how I (and I speak for myself) can quickly degenerate into a tabloid mentality when it comes to the Royals. I think, for me, it began when Lady Colin Campbell wrote a book about Diana in 1992. I was managing a bookstore and so read quite a lot, books and magazines. As I read that book I thought, "No! Not possible! What trash!!" And then Andrew Morton's book came out and it all became quite true. I was embarrassed to read about it as the years passed and yet I did. And I continue to skim articles about Diana and Charles to this day (and really dislike myself for it.) But one positive thing I think that comes out of my descent into tabloid-ism is that I have a fresh understanding of how conflicted William and Harry must be about their family. I think it was summed up best by something that Diana said (well, said according to Morton and as he has the tapes, I guess she said it.) She said that once when William was quite young he told her she was the most selfish woman, that all she ever thought about was herself, and when she asked him where he'd heard that he told her that [Charles] was always saying that. When I read that I thought "Yep, that's what I think William meant in the GQ interview--he was sorry he couldn't have protected Diana from herself, from confiding in the wrong people and starting something that led to so much tragedy. That continues to be the most 'newsworthy' side of Diana when she did so many other good things."
Anyway, thus endeth my Tuesday confession. Keep reporting all the good stuff Charlotte!!!
lol. Enjoyed your "confession", Jo. I think we have all been there even if we haven't managed a book store. The boy's certainly have turned out better than their circumstances could have dictated.
DeleteRebecca Deacon is in the photo of Kate walking with the CEO of the hospital. Rebecca is right behind Kate.
ReplyDeleteShe's still in their employ.
Of the hundreds of times I have visited your wonderful blog Charlotte, this was the first time I cried. To see the faces of two beautiful Australian young women amongst those that lost their lives, it really hit home how vulnerable we have all become. One of the girls was from my home state, a nurse, who went back into danger to help the injured, and for her bravery she paid the ultimate price. It's too sad to comprehend.
ReplyDeleteI am pleased that Catherine spent time with those that are still fighting their injuries, and with the nurses, doctors and staff that are caring for them. I can't imagine the stress and trauma that they too have witnessed, and how they will also cope with this in the days, months and years ahead.
I have read those of you that have felt she should have been there sooner. I believe she timed her visit appropriately - the last thing the staff needed was a VIP visit, while they were caring for the injured. She got this right - and I'm sure her visit was appreciated by both the staff and those that are fighting for their lives.
I do think that her MIA behaviour is not perfect or ideal, and I hope her commitment to her role shows a lift in profile. When she, William and Harry are visible and together, they are the charismatic, modern face of the monarchy. Please keep up the amazing work you were all doing earlier this year ... the world needs to share in the joy that you bring. There is too much sadness, and we want to see you out and about with the people of the Commonwealth. Let's hope she's had her break for the year, and it's now back to work.
I do enjoy this blog thank you Charlotte for your hard work. I am sorry that so many are critical of Catherine of late i don't think this is what this blog is for. She does a wonderful job especially for one who is not born royal & I admire her for her calm manner in a time of uncertainty. Every day she must live in fear for her children her husband & herself the strain must be dreadful. I think we as those her like to follow her life should be a little more lenient.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with the folks who are using the order of precedence position. The royal family is the face of the nation and the senior members need to be out first and without drawing attention from each other in a national tragedy situation. I offer no criticism on Kate for being last out to visit. She did need to go before she went sailing though. (And she did.)
Also, warfare tactics include the use of hitting a "common" target in an effort to draw out the highly visible members of the community for a more symbolic attack. The British Government is aware of this and these visits have to be unannounced and the area secured before putting royals in with the population in a show of solidarity. None of these royals "just popped in". Nor did any elected government official.
I think it is interesting - not to criticize what isn't happening - but watch what IS going on and how the UK is dealing with the terrorist problem - how they use their royal family effectively/symbolically while also having all hands on deck to thwart and handle future attempts. The royal family is not acting alone - they are coordinating with the government on the who, what, when, and why of visiting those impacted.
Oh no I have just heard of a massive fire in an apartment bldg in London. I am praying for everyone who lives there, and that there won't be casualties. I hope none of our group lives there, or has family/friends in that building. My heart goes out to you all.
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